BMW F 850 GS versus Moto Guzzi V7 Stone
BMW F 850 GS
Adventure
Moto Guzzi V7 Stone
Naked
Year of construction / RRP / Test report
Built von 2018 bis 2023
Built von 2021 bis 2024~
RRP 13.000 €
RRP 9.199 €
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Competitors
Pros:
- raised seating position
- good handling on and off-road
- Wide range of extras and accessories
- successful appearance
Pros:
- 25% more power than its predecessor
- good gearbox, hardly any load changes
- Gimbal
- Pleasurable riding with a motorcycle with a strong character
Cons:
- Windscreen could be slightly larger
- Price skyrockets with extras
- not quite as manoeuvrable
Cons:
- inappropriate LCD cockpit
- Side stand with strange fold-out feedback
- simple equipment
Dimensions & Weight
Wheelbase: 1.593 mm
Length : 2.305 mm Height : 1.356 mm
Seat : 860 mm until : 880 mm
Weight : 229 (max: 445 ) kg
Length : 2.305 mm Height : 1.356 mm
Seat : 860 mm until : 880 mm
Weight : 229 (max: 445 ) kg
Wheelbase: 1.450 mm
Length : 2.165 mm Height : 1.100 mm
Seat : 780 mm
Weight : 218 (max: 428 ) kg
Length : 2.165 mm Height : 1.100 mm
Seat : 780 mm
Weight : 218 (max: 428 ) kg
Engine
Motor design: Number 2 Cylinder
Displacement: 853 ccm
Hub: 77 mm
Hole: 84 mm
Cooling: wassergekühlt
Drive: Kette
Aisles: 6
Displacement: 853 ccm
Hub: 77 mm
Hole: 84 mm
Cooling: wassergekühlt
Drive: Kette
Aisles: 6
Motor design: V2-cylinder four-stroke longitudinal 2 Cylinder
Displacement: 853 ccm
Hub: 77 mm
Hole: 84 mm
Cooling: Luft-Ölkühlung
Drive: Kardan
Aisles: 6
Displacement: 853 ccm
Hub: 77 mm
Hole: 84 mm
Cooling: Luft-Ölkühlung
Drive: Kardan
Aisles: 6
Performance
Maximum speed: 204 km/h
Performance: 95 HP at 8.250 U/Min
Torque: 92 NM bei 6.250 U/Min Tank contents: 15 Litre
Consumption: 4 l
Reach: 341 km
Performance: 95 HP at 8.250 U/Min
Torque: 92 NM bei 6.250 U/Min Tank contents: 15 Litre
Consumption: 4 l
Reach: 341 km
Maximum speed: 175 km/h
Performance: 65 HP at 6.800 U/Min
Torque: 73 NM bei 5.000 U/Min Tank contents: 21 Litre
Consumption: 5 l
Reach: 429 km
Performance: 65 HP at 6.800 U/Min
Torque: 73 NM bei 5.000 U/Min Tank contents: 21 Litre
Consumption: 5 l
Reach: 429 km
Chassis
Frame type:
Steel bridge frame in shell construction (steel) Front suspension:
Upside-down fork, Ø 43 mm (travel 204 mm) Rear suspension:
Mono strut (travel 219 mm)
Rear suspension:
Two-arm swingarm Tyres at the front: 90/90 21
Rear tyres: 150/70 R17
Steel bridge frame in shell construction (steel) Front suspension:
Upside-down fork, Ø 43 mm (travel 204 mm) Rear suspension:
Mono strut (travel 219 mm)
Rear suspension:
Two-arm swingarm Tyres at the front: 90/90 21
Rear tyres: 150/70 R17
Frame type:
Double loop frame (steel) Front suspension:
Hydraulic telescopic fork (travel 137 mm) Rear suspension:
Two hydraulic struts (travel 120 mm)
Rear suspension:
Alu two-arm swingarm Tyres at the front: 100/90 - 18
Rear tyres: 150/70 - 17
Double loop frame (steel) Front suspension:
Hydraulic telescopic fork (travel 137 mm) Rear suspension:
Two hydraulic struts (travel 120 mm)
Rear suspension:
Alu two-arm swingarm Tyres at the front: 100/90 - 18
Rear tyres: 150/70 - 17
Brakes
Front brake
Double disc (∅ 305 mm) Rear brake
Disc (∅ 265 mm)
Double disc (∅ 305 mm) Rear brake
Disc (∅ 265 mm)
Front brake
Brembo, floating brake disc, 4-piston caliper (∅ 320 mm) Rear brake
Brembo 2-piston caliper (∅ 260 mm)
Brembo, floating brake disc, 4-piston caliper (∅ 320 mm) Rear brake
Brembo 2-piston caliper (∅ 260 mm)
Conclusion - what sticks
Well done, Moto Guzzi! The new V7 was touched in the right places. More power and more stability make the V8 850 the better Guzzi. Nevertheless, it has retained its character, which should please the potential target group.You can argue about the design, as I said we like the Special better, but also the Stone makes a visual appearance. She is immediately recognizable as guzzi and we would not opt for the black version, but for the one in blue - the black one makes us visually too much on "evil" - and it just isn't.
The test machine was kindly provided by Zweirad-Technik Schielmann in Bokel.
